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Audwoman
March 21st, 2007, 07:55 PM
It is Old.....:lol: The realtor thinks I will love this one I am going tomorrow to check it out.

Boy does this one have some history. Also, I want to know if old Ryan is buried under the house. Read paragraph #4 :blush:

Sorry it is so long but it is interesting. I have never known the history of a house I have purchased.
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James Ryan was about two years shy of 60 when he applied to purchase land in Western Pennsylvania in 1785. When the patent was issued 22 years later, he became the first owner of a 256-acre tract he called Peleponesus.

The name was an odd choice for an Irish immigrant, whose land was surrounded by tracts with obvious monikers like "Hamilton's Choice" and "Martinsville." Maybe it was Peleponesus' hilly topography, not unlike the Peloponnese peninsula in southern Greece.

What is known is that Mr. Ryan cleared the land on one of the hilltops and built a log house. In 1820, eight years after his death, the log house was replaced by a brick house as the family grew and prospered. Bricks from that dwelling were used to build the existing Ryan homestead, a remarkable 19th-century survivor amid the bungalows, ranches and 1950s Colonials of suburban.

In his will, recorded in 1812, Mr. Ryan requested that his body -- "the house of clay wherein my soul inhabiteth" -- be buried "on my own Plantation in a plain decent, but becoming manner, and in so doing to avoid unnecessary expense."

From father to son He left his estate to his second son, Ambrose; cash bequests to his other children; and a 6-month-old "horse Colt" to Ambrose's first son, James.

In 1838, 112 acres of the Peleponesus tract were divided evenly between James and his brother Ambrose. The present brick house, it has long been thought, was erected by Ambrose around the same time. But Ambrose was only about 9 in 1838. If he built the house, it likely had a later construction date, probably the mid- to late 1840s. Ambrose died young, at 18 or 19 in 1848, leaving a widow and a 1-year-old son, also named Ambrose.

This Ambrose inherited his father's estate and became a farmer and the husband of Mary Jane Bigley, with whom he had nine children. Their daughter Elvira inherited the house and passed it to her daughter, Olive Mary Toy. She passed it to her daughter, Mary Jane McIlrath, who moved in with her husband, Kingsley Evarts, in the early 1970s.

By that time the house, occupied continuously by Ryan descendants, was in need of updating. The Evartses enthusiastically embraced a renovation in 1978, with an eye to creating a comfortable, high-style home rather than authentically restoring what had been a somewhat modest house. They removed horsehair plaster and lath and stripped walls to the studs; they rewired, replumbed, installed wide-plank oak floors and cast-stone mantels. They added storms and screens to the six-over-six windows, many of which still have the old glass.

They decorated with wallpaper and with matching draperies and valences made by Mrs. Evarts, and in the living room used molding to create the look of paneled walls. They put in a modern kitchen with its own brick fireplace, and converted the upstairs nursery to a large, second bathroom.

Maintaining the original Greek Revival-style entrance with sidelights and transom, the Evartses installed a new front door and broken-pediment surround, and they built a brick terrace off the entrance, all of which gave the house a grander appearance from the outside, too.

Greenhouse and garden
To the attached two-car garage they added a small greenhouse, where Mr. Evarts wintered over his many bonsai trees. The greenhouse and the garden were the special province of Mr. Evarts, who introduced a variety of specimen trees and shrubs on Peleponesus' lush, surviving 3/4-acre landscape. He designed the boxwood parterre centered on the front door and grew espaliered pear trees against the house, on trellises flanking the door.


A boxwood parterre, meticulously groomed, creates a formal garden in front of the mid-19th-century Ryan homestead, situated on a 3/4-acre lot that once was part of the 256-acre Peleponesus patent..

jennie
March 21st, 2007, 07:59 PM
How cool to have all that history available on the house. Looks very nice too!


Hmmm...maybe Mr. Ryan is still lookin' after the place!:ph34r:

boo
March 21st, 2007, 08:00 PM
Sold! I want it. :drool: :drool:

Oh Aud :( This one is perfect for me to stay in while I visit.:lol: :lol:

Such a cool history and all buried bodies make great compost :unsure: as long as you don't dig down to far.

Yes, Yes! Buy this one!!

boo
March 21st, 2007, 08:01 PM
Yep, I bet its haunted :grin:

Sneezie
March 21st, 2007, 08:02 PM
This is Sneezie Aud and bein nosy like I am, I looked before boo. Hope that`s ok. I LOVE IT!!!! Looks a lil English estatesy [is there such a word] doesn`t it? Very charming. Also read the report on it you included.

Sneezie
March 21st, 2007, 08:04 PM
:mad: Sh-- I thought I was the first to reply. Oh well anyhow I like it!!

boo
March 21st, 2007, 08:05 PM
lmao Sneezie :p

jennie beat us all

jennie
March 21st, 2007, 08:07 PM
:blush: Yeah, I was bein' nosy too, but hey if you post in a public forum...aw shucks, I'm just plain busted.;)

Audwoman
March 21st, 2007, 08:28 PM
:lol: :lol: You guys are crazy. Suppose when you opened it Boo jumped out at you.

My daughter was funny she said "I see you running and screaming if I you are out there planting and come up with a hand". I am a screamer when I get frightened. :lol: :lol:

I will report back tomorrow with the results of the viewing. But the first sign of ghost I am out of there I do not care what kind of deal they are offering. I refuse to live with ghost.

boo
March 21st, 2007, 08:35 PM
Hey ghosts are great as long as they don't throw knives or touch you too much when you're sleeping. :wacko:

Aud, this is a cool house. I'm willing to help you with the down payment :) That is how much I want to see you in this house. I'll be sending the BS bail money in a padded envelope via USPS. 30 cents and that rusty paperclip which might come in handy now. Pull it apart to make one of those energy jobbies that can scope out ghosts.

Ginny42
March 21st, 2007, 08:39 PM
That is soooo cool Aud! Think of all the brugs you can keep in that greenhouse, among other tropicals!!! Let us know how it goes.;) :grin: Look at all that level ground and mature trees too! You can make it look like a paradise.

Pennylee
March 21st, 2007, 08:48 PM
What a lovely house! The garden has a very French -or maybe Italian- look
to it. And I like the simple lines of the house itself.

I'd like to come to your first garden party.

A ghost would be a bonus, really - a party icebreaker.

boo
March 21st, 2007, 09:05 PM
It has a look of the houses in a few of my favorite black & white films. Such romantic, historic feel to it. Nevermind that most of them were horror films. :) I really like it. http://www.blossomswap.com/garden-forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.blossomswap.com/garden-forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

jennie
March 21st, 2007, 09:24 PM
well thats where Mr. Ryan comes in :p

Audwoman
March 21st, 2007, 09:28 PM
Ok, are you all trying to talk me into the haunted house so you can stop my search? :lol: Do you ever wonder why those people do not run when they hear that music just before they are killed. If I hear music I am running. LOL

I know you are not getting off easy with my HGTV show. Buy Hey what are friends for. :p

I really like the pic and description. I cannot wait to walk through it tomorrow.

Audwoman
March 21st, 2007, 09:34 PM
I cannot tell if this is a pic of the side or back of the house.

boo
March 21st, 2007, 09:37 PM
muahahaha Jennie :ph34r: I like the way you think.

I don't know, Aud :unsure: This one is going to be tough to beat on interesting background.

Unless you find one that was a) home of a mass murder b) celebrity abode or c) an estate of a gardener that collected every species of hosta, coral bell & sedum I can't see you outdoing this spectacular home. :)

:unsure: Think we could form the front bushes to a BS?

boo
March 21st, 2007, 09:38 PM
Nice, nice very nice. I hope you don't find out the other acreage is now a landfill. :) looking good

jennie
March 21st, 2007, 09:50 PM
Nice, nice very nice. I hope you don't find out the other acreage is now a landfill. :) looking good

;) or a family burial plot:ph34r:

seriosly though it looks incredible.....you do realise were all coming to live with you:o :p

Audwoman
March 21st, 2007, 09:53 PM
It can be a landfill as long as it is not filled with Mr Ryan. You see I am stuck on that "Cheap Bury me on the property" Will thing :lol:

boo
March 21st, 2007, 10:27 PM
But Aud you're not thinking about the incentives. Headstones would make awesome garden decor.

DandyLioness
March 21st, 2007, 10:48 PM
I missed the pic of the house.. I saw only the one of the small apartment building! :o WTF? That's a HOUSE!?!?!?!?

Elvira lived there too. Isn't she the one that looked like Mrs. Munster???? (Or was is the Adams Family??) I'd be doubly careful of this Greek Style mansion. Beware of broken glass and hidden containers of vaseline. :lol:

Audwoman
March 21st, 2007, 10:58 PM
hidden containers of vaseline

:lol: :lol: @Dandy

moonbaby
March 21st, 2007, 11:00 PM
Aud I LOVE THIS ONE and ghost are not usually hard to live with! :p We happen to have a few in the neighborhood. I leave them alone and they leave me alone! :lol: :lol: I just don't go for moonlight gardens! :lol:

DandyLioness
March 21st, 2007, 11:07 PM
Word of caution, Aud. Quickly rush to a mirror in the house... and if you don't see your reflection, RUN LIKE HELL! Or... does it mean that spring will be here soon. I get those mixed up.

grindle
March 22nd, 2007, 02:30 AM
That house is fanastic, I can see lots of potential for the garden :thumbs: don't worry about ghosts, just give them a shovel and get them to work:lol:

Audwoman
March 22nd, 2007, 03:52 AM
But what if I give him a shovel and he digs me a grave next to his? :(

grindle you are so sweet. You did not drag us through your house hunting. No, No not me. I am dragging them kicking and screaming into this nightmare search.

I just keep waiting for the house to speak to me. I just do not want ghost speaking to me. :lol: When I brought this house I could feel the joy. I have not stepped into one that gave me that joy feeling.

bjmots
March 22nd, 2007, 01:12 PM
I love this one Aud.
Uh Boo - what happened to the pocket lint that was in the BS bail fund?:lol:

boo
March 22nd, 2007, 02:42 PM
:blush: Can't a girl keep a little something for herself? :blush: :lol:

Ok, forgot about that.

Audwoman
March 22nd, 2007, 02:53 PM
:lol: :lol: Boo, forty wacks with the wet noodle. How am I suppose to buy the house if you do not throw in everything?

CMStubbe320
March 22nd, 2007, 03:13 PM
It's a great looking place with a great history. There was no mention of Mr. Ryan still being around -- don't you have to declare stuff like that when you sell your house? Oh, by the way, don't be alarmed if......

I have some extra lint from my dryer if you need some extra financing.

jennie
March 22nd, 2007, 03:22 PM
Oh! Oh! I got lots of dryer lint! I just bought new towels for the bathroom, I think you loss half the towel the first time you wash them.:o


Aud, if you don't get that joyful feeling then you shouldn't buy it. Regardless that you'll be letting all of your BS firiends down:p .

Audwoman
March 22nd, 2007, 10:00 PM
Well I do not think this is the one. It is a beauty but the rooms are just not big enough.

One of the great, great, great grandsons arrived to interview us. It was not a obvious interview but I know from the questions that it was an interview. We passed because he asked us if we were going to make an offer. I told him I had to think about it. He gave me his number and said if the realtor could not answer he would be happy talk to me.

I did ask him where the body was buried. He said "I do not know it could be anywhere either on the property or 44 blocks away since they owned 256 acres". :unsure:

The bathroom was really funny. I just froze. You step down into a room that is about 12 x 14. I bet you are saying OH how big. But.... It had pink shag carpet, pink toilet, and pink sink in the middle of this big room was a bright red clawfoot tub with gold claws. OH my goodness. Under that tub was a big red oriental rug. What were they thinking.

grindle
March 23rd, 2007, 01:34 AM
:lol: Aud I love looking at houses, and this time it's not costing me a thing.
:-x the bathroom sounds er interesting :(

CMStubbe320
March 23rd, 2007, 09:33 AM
You have a problem with pink huh? Yep, I can understand that. well, it just goes to show that you can't tell what's on the inside by the appearance of the outside. Or, is it, you can't tell a book by it's cover? This is a fun way to go house shopping!

Audwoman
March 23rd, 2007, 03:09 PM
:lol: Yes pink is not something I can deal with. I know people put carpet in bathrooms but to do wall-wall under a tub that would have to be removed to even clean it was a mistake. Unless they knew that tub should and would be gone. I have never seen a red tub. It would make a funny conversation piece somewhere.

All in all if they come down on the price I could add what is needed. I would buy it. I could make it what it could be there is awesome potential.

jennie
March 23rd, 2007, 04:13 PM
Hmm, it kinda sounds like a bathroom out of an old fashion (whats a nice word???).....bordello! Sounds very tacky. I think the red tub would be really cool if the rest of the bathroom was white:grin: with just some red accents. But this is coming from someone who just re-did her bathroom in red!